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     Issue 202 - May 1999
 
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Contact President Frank Leonard at 916-726-9134 or by e-mail at
frank@amicro.com

Too Much Communication?
Our president notes that our BBS is getting a lot less traffic, that we have more options, and has some new discussion list instructions.

Our electronic bulletin board service (BBS), Sacra Bytes, has been our group’s main source of electronic communication for nearly seven years now. During most of those seven years, Sacra Bytes was the group’s only electronic communications source. By the way, I’m not sure how many of you remember that our new vice president, Diana DeMuth, named our BBS back in 1993. But I digress.
    Back in the heyday of our BBS (1993-1994) we enjoyed well over 6,000 calls to the system per month (averaging over 200 calls per day). Last year that figure shrunk to fewer than 2,000 calls per month (averaging around 59 calls per day). Today we see about 500 calls per month (averaging about 15 calls per day). What this means to us is that the BBS is currently serving a handful of members who call regularly and a slightly larger handful of non-members who cruise by to check us out (or simply to test their modems).
    There are many reasons for this decline in calls to Sacra Bytes. The fact that today we have less than half the members than we had in 1993 is one reason. The Internet, of course, has played a large role in dictating where many users go for electronic information. All of that aside, there is now little doubt that the $100 per month currently spent to keep Sacra Bytes operating could be better spent elsewhere within our group. The Steering Committee is currently investigating the issue in detail. Your attendance and input at the Steering Committee would be most welcome.

More Options
Recently, Robert DuGaue, owner of CalWeb Communications, offered to provide our group with an e-mail discussion list to enhance our electronic communications. Actually, CalWeb provides two discussion lists for us. One of the lists is for the group’s officers and the larger discussion list (sacpcug@calweb.com) is for the general membership. CalWeb does not offer this service to other customers and is providing the discussion lists to us at no charge. As you may know, CalWeb hosts our Web page as well. My thanks go to Robert and his fine staff at CalWeb for all they do for us.
    Just before we launched our e-mail discussion list, webmaster Dave Eden started a “club” for our group on the Yahoo Web site. If you have full Internet browsing capabilities, the Yahoo club offers some interesting features, including a calendar, chat room, and messaging area. The down side is that we have no control over the club. The Yahoo club has attracted only 46 members since Dave founded it in September 1998. Though we’ve advertised the Yahoo club at the general meeting, in the newsletter, and on our Web page, it doesn’t seem to be the communications tool it could be for us.
    With three electronic communications tools available to members—the BBS, discussion list, and Yahoo club—it’s no wonder that members are confused about where to go for help online. As a member who enjoys answering questions for members online, it’s burdensome for me to check with three different electronic services. It makes more sense to me to have one electronic communications service that members can access easily.

    A committee comprised of Larry Clark, Don Frieze, Ken Hopkins, Milt Hull, and myself are looking at the communication options available to us. If you have any suggestions, please contact one of us or, better yet, come to the next Steering Committee meeting and get involved.

New Discussion List Instructions
Due to a learning curve and some technical changes within CalWeb, the information published here last month is not completely correct this month. (Don’t you just love it?) Hopefully the information you get here will be valid for more than one month.
    In order to subscribe to the group’s discussion list, please send a message to listar@calweb.com. Leave the subject line blank. The very first line of the message must read:

subscribe sacpcug percy@fuddlemyer.com

    Of course, you need to replace the percy@fuddlemyer.com address with your own address. You may add the word end on the second line of the message. Adding end to the message will force the Listar program to stop processing commands in the message. Thus, the body of the message might look like this:

subscribe sacpcug percy@fuddlemyer.com
end

    Within a very short period of time after sending the “subscribe” message, CalWeb’s Listar program will send you a verification message by the Listar program. Once you have received that verification message you can consider yourself a member of the discussion list. To participate in the discussion list, you’ll need to send messages to sacpcug@calweb.com. When doing so please add a subject line that briefly describes the content of your message. This is good online etiquette.

Have Problems?
Ian Justman, the postmaster at CalWeb, has taken responsibility for our discussion list, and I administer the list remotely. Ian and I have made the discussion list to default to the digest version for everyone who subscribes. This configuration saves those who subscribe the hassle of seemingly complex commands they would otherwise have to send to Listar. If you do not prefer to have the digest version of the discussion list, please contact me.
    Also, for you Microsoft Outlook users, upon sending the “subscribe” message to the Listar discussion list you may notice in the reply from Listar a number of “unknown command” lines and possibly other superfluous lines prior to the lines in the message informing you that you are a member of the discussion list. Please disregard these superfluous lines. The problem is that Outlook sends some header information (even in text mode) that Listar has trouble digesting. Not to worry. You can ignore those lines in the reply. We’re still working on how to get Listar to ignore the header information from Outlook. The messages you will send to the discussion list from then on (after subscribing) will not have this problem.

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